IF Turkey Joins Russia & Leaves NATO It Might Fulfill Ezekiel 38


This is the prediction in Ezekiel chapter 38:
38:1     And the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
38:2     Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
38:3     And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal:
38:4     And I will turn thee back, and put hooks into thy jaws, and I will bring thee forth, and all thine army, horses and horsemen, all of them clothed with all sorts of armour, even a great company with bucklers and shields, all of them handling swords:
38:5     Persia, Ethiopia, and Libya with them; all of them with shield and helmet:
38:6     Gomer, and all his bands; the house of Togarmah of the north quarters, and all his bands: and many people with thee.
38:7     Be thou prepared, and prepare for thyself, thou, and all thy company that are assembled unto thee, and be thou a guard unto them.

This description of the Endtime, just before the destruction of the Jews in Palestine, is one of the coming Antichrist, here called Gog, the Rosh prince of Meshech and Tubal (Moscow and Tobolsk). Here, the original word “Rosh” is translated as “chief”, but it may be taken as a personal name!

Russia, and its prince Gog of Moscow and Tobolsk, the prophecy says, is supposed to “be a guard unto them.” “Them” are a slew of countries that wil follow Russia. Some are still the same name as this 500 BC prophecy, like Persia or Iran, Ethiopia (although that may include other African countries!) and Libya!

Libya is certainly not going to follow the USraeli (America and Israel) “King of the South” of Daniel 11, the arch enemy of Gog, who is the Antichrist King of the North! (see Daniel 11)

But then there is another slew of countries which are more debatable as they are classified by the names of their ancient patriarchs’ of Northern European and Asian nations. They are Gomer, the House of Togarmah, and MANY PEOPLE with thee.invasion


GomeritesGomer (גֹּמֶר, Standard Hebrew Gómer, Tiberian Hebrew Gōmer, was the eldest son of Japheth (and of the Japhetic line), and father of Ashkenaz, Riphath, and Togarmah, according to the “Table of Nations” in the Hebrew Bible, (Genesis 10). The eponymous Gomer, “standing for the whole family,” as the compilers of the Jewish Encyclopedia expressed it, is mentioned in Ezekiel 38:6 as the ally of Gog. In Islamic folklore, the Persian historian Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari (c. 915) recounts a Persian tradition that Gomer lived to the age of 1000, noting that this record equalled that of Nimrod, but was unsurpassed by anyone else mentioned in the Torah.

Ezekiel says that Gomer “and all his bands” will follow Gog! Gomer is patriarch of the Celts. Gomer (Cymry) is also the namesake of ‘Cumraeg’ (Gomerites) the name the Welsh or British (from Brutus) call themselves. Who are Gomer’s bands? His sons Ripath, Ashkenaz, T’iras (Tiras) and their sons and their offspring. Who is their offspring? Georgians, Armenians, Slavs, Askenazis, Bulgars, Khazars, Kavkazians, and Turks (Turqi Turq), and more.


Thargamos-TogarmahFor example, Georgians and Armenians, who still live at their original post Flood settlements, consider themselves the sons of Hayk the son of Togarmah, son of Gomer. Armenian Moses of Chorene (c. 480) and Georgian Leonti Mroveli regarded Togarmah as the founder of their nations along with other Caucasian people.

According to Moses of Chorene’s History of Armenia and to Leonti Mroveli’s medieval Georgian Chronicles, “Thargamos” was thought to have lived in Babylon, before he received the “land between two Seas and two Mountains” (i.e. the Caucasus) in his possession. He then settled near Mount Ararat and divided his land among his sons. Who are his sons?

  • Haik (Հայկ) – first son of Thargamos, inherited Mount Ararat and founded the Armenian nation.
  • Kartlos (ქართლოსი) – settled in north-east from Ararat, founder of Kartli (Sa’kartvelo) who united other brothers and founded the Georgian nation.
  • Bardos [disambiguation needed]
  • Movakos (Movkans)
  • Lekos (Lak) – Lak people settled in Caucasus Mountains
  • Heros (Herans) – settled in the eastern part of Ararat
  • Caucas (Kovkases) – settled beyond the Caucasus Range, father of the Kavkazians in S.Russia!
  • Egros (Egers) – settled between the Black Sea and Likhi Range (Western Georgia)

So Togarmah’s sons are present day Russians, Georgians, Kavkazians, and Armenians and others!

So it is clear that the Turks from TARKI are part of the nations that will follow the Russian Gog! And that Turks and Russians are now aligning more than was held for possible recently, is a step in the direction of the fulfillment of Ezekiel 38.
Now where do we get the notion that Ezekiel 38 is about to be fulfilled? Because of the founding of the Jewish nation in 1948 and their illegal occupation of Palestina, as well as subsequent developments.
For example, the discovery of the Ark of the Covenenant, the strong push of the Jews to re-build their ancient temple on the temnple mount where now the Mosque of Omar stands, as well as the “Israeli” Ynon plan that has almost succeeded to destroy the surrounding Arab nations like Iraq, Libya, and Syria.
All those developments have not been good for Israel’s karma, and everyone feels and knows that this powderkeg of the Middle East is going to explode sooner than later!

And this development in Turkey might well be the straw on the camel’s back, and cause a conflagration that many call World War III. NBow this does not mean the ultimate invasion of Russia and  all the afore mentioned countries, but it is a step in that direction.

for the American and Evangelical Zionists that may read this, I do not believe that Ezekiel says that God is going to protect Israel from these countries, but that God will use these countries as his razor like Babylon in the days of Jeremiah, when the old Israelites were disobedient bu still miles closer to God than the present day Jews that have taken over Palestina, are. And he says in Ezekiel that the Heathen (goyim nations) will know when He sanctifies Himself in their eyes from the pollutions of His Name by these people.

But Turkey cozying up to Russia is sure a step in that general direction. What do you think?

Gomer and all his Bands!

image14Gomer (Cumry) is the father of the Gauls, the Celts, and many other derivatives of other sons, which is a great part of Western Europe! So, is W. Europe going to follow the Antichrist Gog from Russia, when God puts a hook in his unwilling jaws to drag him over there to Israel?

Gog is obviously unwilling to oblige, but it seems that God doesn’t give him much choice. he has to go to punish the Jews for their sins against Him over there in Palestine, and for polluting His Name, as it is written in Ezekiel 38. (and 39)

38:8     After many days thou shalt be visited: in the latter years thou shalt come into the land that is brought back from the sword, and is gathered out of many people, against the mountains of Israel, which have been always waste: but it is brought forth out of the nations, and they shall dwell safely all of them.
38:9     Thou shalt ascend and come like a storm, thou shalt be like a cloud to cover the land, thou, and all thy bands, and many people with thee.
38:10     Thus saith the Lord GOD; It shall also come to pass, that at the same time shall things come into thy mind, and thou shalt think an evil thought:
38:11     And thou shalt say, I will go up to the land of unwalled villages; I will go to them that are at rest, that dwell safely, all of them dwelling without walls, and having neither bars nor gates,
38:12     To take a spoil, and to take a prey; to turn thine hand upon the desolate places that are now inhabited, and upon the people that are gathered out of the nations, which have gotten cattle and goods, that dwell in the midst of the land.
38:13     Sheba, and Dedan, and the merchants of Tarshish, with all the young lions thereof, shall say unto thee, Art thou come to take a spoil? hast thou gathered thy company to take a prey? to carry away silver and gold, to take away cattle and goods, to take a great spoil?
38:14     Therefore, son of man, prophesy and say unto Gog, Thus saith the Lord GOD; In that day when my people of Israel dwelleth safely, shalt thou not know it?
38:15     And thou shalt come from thy place out of the north parts, thou, and many people with thee, all of them riding upon horses, a great company, and a mighty army:
38:16     And thou shalt come up against my people of Israel, as a cloud to cover the land; it shall be in the latter days, and I will bring thee against my land, that the heathen may know me, when I shall be sanctified in thee, O Gog, before their eyes.
38:17     Thus saith the Lord GOD; Art thou he of whom I have spoken in old time by my servants the prophets of Israel, which prophesied in those days many years that I would bring thee against them?
38:18     And it shall come to pass at the same time when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord GOD, that my fury shall come up in my face.

Now the next section is obviously later in time as the passaes before, as it talks about the coming and the presence of the Lord, when at the end of the Battle of Armageddon a super earthquake will crumble ALL the world’s mountains, destroy the cities and their towers, and sink the islands.

38:19     For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
38:20     So that the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the heaven, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground.
38:21     And I will call for a sword against him throughout all my mountains, saith the Lord GOD: every man’s sword shall be against his brother.
38:22     And I will plead against him with pestilence and with blood; and I will rain upon him, and upon his bands, and upon the many people that are with him, an overflowing rain, and great hailstones, fire, and brimstone.
38:23     Thus will I magnify myself, and sanctify myself; and I will be known in the eyes of many nations, and they shall know that I am the LORD.

Jewish traditions about Togarmah

Togarmah was linked to medieval Turkic peoples by Jewish-Khazar traditions. The Khazar ruler Joseph ben Aaron (c. 960) writes in his letters:

“You ask us also in your epistle: “Of what people, of what family, and of what tribe are you?” Know that we are descended from Japhet, through his son Togarmah. I have found in the genealogical books of my ancestors that Togarmah had ten sons.”

He then goes on to enumerate ten names that can be identified as contemporary tribes living near the Black and Caspian Seas:[5][6] “Ujur” (Uyghur), “Tauris” (Tauri), “Avar” (Avar), “Uguz” (Oghuz), “Bizal”, “Tarna”, “Chazar” (Khazar), “Janur”, “Bulgar” (Bulgar) and “Sawir”.

The medieval Jewish Joseph ben Gorion lists the ten sons of Togarmas in his Josippon as follows:

  1. Kozar (the Khazars)
  2. Pacinak (the Pechenegs)
  3. Aliqanosz (the Alans)
  4. Bulgar (the Bulgars)
  5. Ragbiga (Ragbina, Ranbona)
  6. Turqi (possibly the Kökturks)
  7. Buz (the Oghuz)
  8. Zabuk
  9. Ungari (either the Hungarians or the Oghurs/Onogurs)
  10. Tilmac (Tilmic/Tirôsz – Tauri).”

In the Chronicles of Jerahmeel, they are listed as:

  1. Cuzar (the Khazars)
  2. Pasinaq (the Pechenegs)
  3. Alan (the Alans)
  4. Bulgar (the Bulgars)
  5. Kanbinah
  6. Turq (possibly the Kökturks)
  7. Buz (the Oghuz)
  8. Zakhukh
  9. Ugar (either the Hungarians or the Oghurs/Onogurs)
  10. Tulmes (Tirôsz – Tauri)

Another medieval rabbinic work, the Book of Jasher, further corrupts these same names into:

  1. Buzar (the Khazars)
  2. Parzunac (the Pechenegs)
  3. Elicanum (the Alans)
  4. Balgar (the Bulgars)
  5. Ragbib
  6. Tarki (the Kökturks)
  7. Bid (the Oghuz)
  8. Zebuc
  9. Ongal (Hungarians or Oghurs/Onogurs)
  10. Tilmaz (Tirôsz – Tauri).

Other traditions

In Arabic records[who?], Togorma’s tribes are these:

  1. Khazar (the Khazars)
  2. Badsanag (the Pechenegs)
  3. Asz-alân (the Alans)
  4. Bulghar (the Bulgars)
  5. Zabub
  6. Fitrakh (Kotrakh?) (Ko-etrakh. Etrakh means Turks [possibly Gokturks])
  7. Nabir
  8. Andsar (Ajhar)
  9. Talmisz (Tirôsz – Tauri)
  10. Adzîgher (Adzhigardak?).

The Arabic account however, also adds an 11th clan: Anszuh.

In the 18th century, the French Benedictine monk and scholar Calmet (1672–1757) placed Togarmah in Scythia and Turcomania (in the Eurasian Steppes and Central Asia).[7]


  1. ^ map on inside cover of Gurney, The Hittites, Folio Society edition
  2. ^ “Gürün”. Hittite Monuments. Retrieved 2015-07-26.
  3. ^ “The Georgian Chronicle, History”. Rbedrosian.com. Retrieved 2015-07-26.
  4. ^ “Мовсес Хоренаци, История Армении в трех частях. Книга Первая”. Vehi.net. Retrieved 2015-07-26.
  5. ^ Bloomberg, Jon: The Jewish World in the Middle Ages. Ktav Publishing, 2000, p. 108.
  6. ^ Pritsak O. & Golb. N: Khazarian Hebrew Documents of the Tenth Century, Ithaca: Cornell Univ. Press, 1982.
  7. ^ The Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge. (1835) B. B. Edwards and J. Newton Brown. Brattleboro, Vermont, Fessenden & Co., p. 1125.

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